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	<title>Comments on: Police beats protesters from the opposition rally &#8211; updated</title>
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		<title>By: kolerikss</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-14023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kolerikss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-Изготовление сайтов от 30$ баннеров от 10$
-рассылка рекламных сообщений на форумы 20$ на 30000
-на бесплатные электронные доски 7$ на 10000
-в каталоги сайтов 7$ на 6000
-рассылка на тематические сайты (форумы, доски, каталоги, новосные и т.п.) - сбор базы
 с трех поисковой систем + рассылка 60$. Все последующие рассылки 10-20$.Собраные базы отдаю Вам.
-ручная регистрация в любых ресурсах 0.2$ за регистрацию (минимум 200 регистраций)
-комплексная раскрутка сайтов 1000$ разово + 200$ в месяц за рассылки или по договорености.
-делаю сбор баз любых ресурсов под заказ
-поиск информации в интернете 10$
-http прокси 3$ за 300 прочеканых
 E-mail: vel654@mail.ru]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Изготовление сайтов от 30$ баннеров от 10$<br />
-рассылка рекламных сообщений на форумы 20$ на 30000<br />
-на бесплатные электронные доски 7$ на 10000<br />
-в каталоги сайтов 7$ на 6000<br />
-рассылка на тематические сайты (форумы, доски, каталоги, новосные и т.п.) &#8211; сбор базы<br />
 с трех поисковой систем + рассылка 60$. Все последующие рассылки 10-20$.Собраные базы отдаю Вам.<br />
-ручная регистрация в любых ресурсах 0.2$ за регистрацию (минимум 200 регистраций)<br />
-комплексная раскрутка сайтов 1000$ разово + 200$ в месяц за рассылки или по договорености.<br />
-делаю сбор баз любых ресурсов под заказ<br />
-поиск информации в интернете 10$<br />
-http прокси 3$ за 300 прочеканых<br />
 E-mail: <a href="mailto:vel654@mail.ru">vel654@mail.ru</a></p>
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		<title>By: koltiwen</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-13966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koltiwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Делаю сайты как простые так и сложные. Простые от 30$ около 100 готовых шаблонов. 
Сложные от 100$ около 100 готовых шаблонов. На сайт могу поставить аудио,видео,флеш,форму обратной связи,
фотогалерею,слайд шоу, регистрацию,подписку на новости,поисковик,форум,гостевую,каталог ссылок,
доску объявлений, и др.Также делаю баннеры,есть около 40 готовых и под заказ, готовые 10$ под заказ 25$.
Раскручиваю сайты рассылкой рекламы на доски 7$-10000, каталоги 7$-6000, форумы 20$-31000, есть ручная рассылка 0.2$ за регистрацию.
Есть вариант комплексной раскрутки - рассылка на общетематические ресурсы + сбор баз тематических ресурсов и рассылка по ним
+система пирамидой раскрутки 1000$ все последующие рассылки по всем базам 100$ или на абонплате 200$ в месяц.
Также предлагаю раскрутку под конкретное число посетителей 100$ за 1000 уникальных посетителей (не накрутка)
.Делаю сбор баз любых ресурсов под заказ. rot476@mail.ru]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Делаю сайты как простые так и сложные. Простые от 30$ около 100 готовых шаблонов.<br />
Сложные от 100$ около 100 готовых шаблонов. На сайт могу поставить аудио,видео,флеш,форму обратной связи,<br />
фотогалерею,слайд шоу, регистрацию,подписку на новости,поисковик,форум,гостевую,каталог ссылок,<br />
доску объявлений, и др.Также делаю баннеры,есть около 40 готовых и под заказ, готовые 10$ под заказ 25$.<br />
Раскручиваю сайты рассылкой рекламы на доски 7$-10000, каталоги 7$-6000, форумы 20$-31000, есть ручная рассылка 0.2$ за регистрацию.<br />
Есть вариант комплексной раскрутки &#8211; рассылка на общетематические ресурсы + сбор баз тематических ресурсов и рассылка по ним<br />
+система пирамидой раскрутки 1000$ все последующие рассылки по всем базам 100$ или на абонплате 200$ в месяц.<br />
Также предлагаю раскрутку под конкретное число посетителей 100$ за 1000 уникальных посетителей (не накрутка)<br />
.Делаю сбор баз любых ресурсов под заказ. <a href="mailto:rot476@mail.ru">rot476@mail.ru</a></p>
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		<title>By: isabella</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[isabella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joghovurd chvaxeq !!!
There are still important things to do in this country..we shall be there by 13th..
In solidarity !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joghovurd chvaxeq !!!<br />
There are still important things to do in this country..we shall be there by 13th..<br />
In solidarity !</p>
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		<title>By: Hovik Dinkjian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hovik Dinkjian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who in the world is this Nazarian?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who in the world is this Nazarian?</p>
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		<title>By: Hovik Dinkjian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hovik Dinkjian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 17:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is the world is this Nazarian?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the world is this Nazarian?</p>
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		<title>By: agrav</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[agrav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hayer  in4 na sksel???  mi thaqavori ir generalnerov  tex@  , myus na  gah uzum ....

zardneq  !!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hayer  in4 na sksel???  mi thaqavori ir generalnerov  tex@  , myus na  gah uzum &#8230;.</p>
<p>zardneq  !!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nazarian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nazarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who in the world is this Hovik Dinkjian?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who in the world is this Hovik Dinkjian?</p>
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		<title>By: Oneworld Multimedia :: Parliamentary Election Monitor :: May :: 2007</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oneworld Multimedia :: Parliamentary Election Monitor :: May :: 2007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] terms of the reaction of bloggers to the clash last night, the Armenian Blog Review has extensive coverage and translations of posts from all sides. In particular it posts video footage of the rumble while one of Impeachment&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] terms of the reaction of bloggers to the clash last night, the Armenian Blog Review has extensive coverage and translations of posts from all sides. In particular it posts video footage of the rumble while one of Impeachment&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hovik Dinkjian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hovik Dinkjian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Serge Sargsyan is angry and when his excellency is angry lighting [ gaizak! ] falleth from the sky. What impeachment tasted yesterday is nothing compared to what is in store for them. May 13th the day after the elections is a Sunday and it will be a sunday bloody sunday in Armenia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge Sargsyan is angry and when his excellency is angry lighting [ gaizak! ] falleth from the sky. What impeachment tasted yesterday is nothing compared to what is in store for them. May 13th the day after the elections is a Sunday and it will be a sunday bloody sunday in Armenia.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe it. A1 Plus quotes Suren Surenyants as witnessing &quot;the conflict between the police and the meeting participants.&quot;

Yet, when I left and walked to meet some friends I saw him sitting at the cafe opposite the Republic party office. 

So, either he left the meeting when it turned nasty or he didn&#039;t witness anything at all. 

Either way, he couldn&#039;t have been where the action was for long, or at all, in fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe it. A1 Plus quotes Suren Surenyants as witnessing &#8220;the conflict between the police and the meeting participants.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet, when I left and walked to meet some friends I saw him sitting at the cafe opposite the Republic party office. </p>
<p>So, either he left the meeting when it turned nasty or he didn&#8217;t witness anything at all. </p>
<p>Either way, he couldn&#8217;t have been where the action was for long, or at all, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Geghamian says he&#039;ll jump on the bandwagon if the election is falsified which means he expects a certain amount of seats and that&#039;s all. The question is whether or not he will be satisfied with those number of seats if the election is highly flawed to the point where international observers condemn the election.

As for Impeachment, Republic and New Times, I just don&#039;t think they have enough support in society. Rallying several thousand people isn&#039;t much if nobody else supports you and so far I haven&#039;t heard many people say they do. Basically, they&#039;re not even running for parliament. They&#039;re trying to start a revolution on 13 May.

I&#039;d say a peaceful democratic revolution but I can&#039;t because it won&#039;t be peaceful or democratic. It will be one minority group against another and I daresay it will be bloody. If they&#039;re hoping for international sympathy they&#039;re not going to get it. From day one they were preparing for revolution and not an election. They want regime change by any means and the ballot box is not an option for them.

On the other hand, if Heritage, National Unity and Orinats Yerkir were to get involved it becomes something different and perhaps more representative of society.

Well, apart from the many, many people who do say they will vote for Prosperous Armenia although I don&#039;t suppose they&#039;d take to the streets in Tsarukian&#039;s defense either. Then the bickering will start and nobody will agree on anything and try to get the most for themselves and nothing would have changed at all.

Impeachment et all are a minority in the minority that is the population that even cares or thinks about this election. So, it will be a battle between one minority group (radical opposition) and another (government). That&#039;s all. Well, with one exception, any post-election clashes run the risk of being very nasty indeed, and it&#039;s something the three leaders -- Pashinian, Sarkisyan and Karapetian -- seem quite willing to risk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Geghamian says he&#8217;ll jump on the bandwagon if the election is falsified which means he expects a certain amount of seats and that&#8217;s all. The question is whether or not he will be satisfied with those number of seats if the election is highly flawed to the point where international observers condemn the election.</p>
<p>As for Impeachment, Republic and New Times, I just don&#8217;t think they have enough support in society. Rallying several thousand people isn&#8217;t much if nobody else supports you and so far I haven&#8217;t heard many people say they do. Basically, they&#8217;re not even running for parliament. They&#8217;re trying to start a revolution on 13 May.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say a peaceful democratic revolution but I can&#8217;t because it won&#8217;t be peaceful or democratic. It will be one minority group against another and I daresay it will be bloody. If they&#8217;re hoping for international sympathy they&#8217;re not going to get it. From day one they were preparing for revolution and not an election. They want regime change by any means and the ballot box is not an option for them.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if Heritage, National Unity and Orinats Yerkir were to get involved it becomes something different and perhaps more representative of society.</p>
<p>Well, apart from the many, many people who do say they will vote for Prosperous Armenia although I don&#8217;t suppose they&#8217;d take to the streets in Tsarukian&#8217;s defense either. Then the bickering will start and nobody will agree on anything and try to get the most for themselves and nothing would have changed at all.</p>
<p>Impeachment et all are a minority in the minority that is the population that even cares or thinks about this election. So, it will be a battle between one minority group (radical opposition) and another (government). That&#8217;s all. Well, with one exception, any post-election clashes run the risk of being very nasty indeed, and it&#8217;s something the three leaders &#8212; Pashinian, Sarkisyan and Karapetian &#8212; seem quite willing to risk.</p>
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		<title>By: kronstadt</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kronstadt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a governemnt to do such a thing 3 days before the elections and not after, is just plain stupid -- they should have instructed crowd control properly to refrain from provocations.  But then the big mystery is why did they narrow the Nalbandyan street?  I don&#039;t think neither the governemnt nor Impeachment provoked or desired that which happed yesterday.  But there was definitely a tension - a lot of tension.  And in the midst of all this tension and confusion a small push or foul mouth is a spark enough.

The interesting thing to look at is what does this mean in the contxt of the elections.  Imean everywhere in Armenian cyberspace (press, blogs, news, radio) yesterday&#039;s events are buzzing with opinions.  And there is no such thing as bad press, especially for the increasingly populist entity such as Impeachment.  Overall, yesterday&#039;s events seems to have benefitted Impeachment both in terms of number of ballots in their favour on May 12, and also in terms of how the events following May 13 will be viewed in public eye.

As an indicator of this shift we can just look to the BAROMETER of Armenian politics, who swings in all directions depending on where the oportunities await and gains are to be made -- yes, of course I&#039;m talking about Geghamyan.  This famous oportunist swinger of Armenian political landscape has already made a stament that he intends to jump on Impeachments bandwaggon and cash in accordingly should Impeachment be as &quot;successful&quot; as yesterday once again.  http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&amp;iid=49012]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a governemnt to do such a thing 3 days before the elections and not after, is just plain stupid &#8212; they should have instructed crowd control properly to refrain from provocations.  But then the big mystery is why did they narrow the Nalbandyan street?  I don&#8217;t think neither the governemnt nor Impeachment provoked or desired that which happed yesterday.  But there was definitely a tension &#8211; a lot of tension.  And in the midst of all this tension and confusion a small push or foul mouth is a spark enough.</p>
<p>The interesting thing to look at is what does this mean in the contxt of the elections.  Imean everywhere in Armenian cyberspace (press, blogs, news, radio) yesterday&#8217;s events are buzzing with opinions.  And there is no such thing as bad press, especially for the increasingly populist entity such as Impeachment.  Overall, yesterday&#8217;s events seems to have benefitted Impeachment both in terms of number of ballots in their favour on May 12, and also in terms of how the events following May 13 will be viewed in public eye.</p>
<p>As an indicator of this shift we can just look to the BAROMETER of Armenian politics, who swings in all directions depending on where the oportunities await and gains are to be made &#8212; yes, of course I&#8217;m talking about Geghamyan.  This famous oportunist swinger of Armenian political landscape has already made a stament that he intends to jump on Impeachments bandwaggon and cash in accordingly should Impeachment be as &#8220;successful&#8221; as yesterday once again.  <a href="http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&#038;iid=49012" rel="nofollow">http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&#038;iid=49012</a></p>
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		<title>By: kronstadt</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kronstadt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hello Onnik,
sorry I think you&#039;re confusing me with Tigran Kocharyan.  It was he who mentioned the figure of 15,000
As for me, I don&#039;t pay as much attention to these small number discrepancies as much as to the presence and the kind of reviews that these events gain in mainstream meadia which constitutes the public knowledge.  Pretty postmodern, ha?  But the entirety of our knowledge of what happened in Gulf War in 1991 was that which CNN told us was the case.  Gulf War 1 could as well have been shot in the studio for all we know... you get my point?  Remember &quot;Wag the Dog&quot; movie.  If the media says that there were just 3000, then that&#039;s what matters in the broader scheme of things... and not the actual number that went there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Onnik,<br />
sorry I think you&#8217;re confusing me with Tigran Kocharyan.  It was he who mentioned the figure of 15,000<br />
As for me, I don&#8217;t pay as much attention to these small number discrepancies as much as to the presence and the kind of reviews that these events gain in mainstream meadia which constitutes the public knowledge.  Pretty postmodern, ha?  But the entirety of our knowledge of what happened in Gulf War in 1991 was that which CNN told us was the case.  Gulf War 1 could as well have been shot in the studio for all we know&#8230; you get my point?  Remember &#8220;Wag the Dog&#8221; movie.  If the media says that there were just 3000, then that&#8217;s what matters in the broader scheme of things&#8230; and not the actual number that went there.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
		<link>http://ditord.com/2007/05/10/police-beats-protesters-from-the-opposition-rally/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What did make me wonder about things, btw, was on my way back to meet friends near the opera at Shamrock, I saw two senior members of Republic party -- one of the opposition parties involved in the clash -- sit quite relaxed at an open air cafe drinking. One, Suren Sureniants, was speaking on his phone. They didn&#039;t seem to bothered about what had been going on 30 minutes earlier outside the NSS building and I&#039;m sure they had been informed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did make me wonder about things, btw, was on my way back to meet friends near the opera at Shamrock, I saw two senior members of Republic party &#8212; one of the opposition parties involved in the clash &#8212; sit quite relaxed at an open air cafe drinking. One, Suren Sureniants, was speaking on his phone. They didn&#8217;t seem to bothered about what had been going on 30 minutes earlier outside the NSS building and I&#8217;m sure they had been informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incidentally, I can&#039;t say that the police picked the fight as I missed what started the clash. Ran back to see some plain clothes guys (NSS, I guess) drag some guy onto the steps of the building and hit him. However, the way the Red Berets also ran back after the clash  started made me think that there wasn&#039;t a plan to have a fight.

As Observer said, and actually we were discussing this earlier at the Matenadaran an hour earlier, it seemed a clash was inevitable before the march started. Probably the opposition guys wanted something like this. Maybe they even needed it. Can&#039;t say whether the police provoked anything as I didn&#039;t see what started it. However, up until when it started I was under the impression that they were taken unawares.

When the Red Berets moved up along Nalbandian to try to cut off access to the NSS building it looked like they left the rear unguarded. I guessed that opposition supporters saw that and took the opportunity. Anyway, that was my initial assumption and what I thought must have happened, but I admit I was 15 or 20 meters further on up. All I can remember is sirens being sounded from behind me which alerted the Red Berets to run back down.

Even then, they were unsure what was going on and took something like 10 or 15 seconds to react.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, I can&#8217;t say that the police picked the fight as I missed what started the clash. Ran back to see some plain clothes guys (NSS, I guess) drag some guy onto the steps of the building and hit him. However, the way the Red Berets also ran back after the clash  started made me think that there wasn&#8217;t a plan to have a fight.</p>
<p>As Observer said, and actually we were discussing this earlier at the Matenadaran an hour earlier, it seemed a clash was inevitable before the march started. Probably the opposition guys wanted something like this. Maybe they even needed it. Can&#8217;t say whether the police provoked anything as I didn&#8217;t see what started it. However, up until when it started I was under the impression that they were taken unawares.</p>
<p>When the Red Berets moved up along Nalbandian to try to cut off access to the NSS building it looked like they left the rear unguarded. I guessed that opposition supporters saw that and took the opportunity. Anyway, that was my initial assumption and what I thought must have happened, but I admit I was 15 or 20 meters further on up. All I can remember is sirens being sounded from behind me which alerted the Red Berets to run back down.</p>
<p>Even then, they were unsure what was going on and took something like 10 or 15 seconds to react.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kronstadt, I disagree with the 15,000 figure for the last rally at Liberty Square as I&#039;ve said before. Talking among ourselves at that event, we reckoned there were more than 5,000 but less than 10,000. Several thousand, for sure. Perhaps 7,000? Figures for yesterday were estimated at 6-7,000 by one foreign journalist. Anyway, it&#039;s obvious that the issue here is how many were at the Liberty Square rally, but I suppose I could be wrong. Guestimating the number of participants at rallies is a problematic issue. However, I&#039;d say this. Most journalists put the Orinats Yerkir rally at the Matenadaran at 5-6,000. Yesterday&#039;s rally was larger than that, for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kronstadt, I disagree with the 15,000 figure for the last rally at Liberty Square as I&#8217;ve said before. Talking among ourselves at that event, we reckoned there were more than 5,000 but less than 10,000. Several thousand, for sure. Perhaps 7,000? Figures for yesterday were estimated at 6-7,000 by one foreign journalist. Anyway, it&#8217;s obvious that the issue here is how many were at the Liberty Square rally, but I suppose I could be wrong. Guestimating the number of participants at rallies is a problematic issue. However, I&#8217;d say this. Most journalists put the Orinats Yerkir rally at the Matenadaran at 5-6,000. Yesterday&#8217;s rally was larger than that, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to repeat myself - here&#039;s an extract from my post at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogrel.com/2007/05/10/opposition-rally-dispersed-in-yerevan-may-9-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogrel&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess everybody knew there will be a fight after yesterday’s rally. It was going to serve as the last test to see just how serious both the government and opposition are about the revolutionary way of changing the government after the elections. We can see now, that the government, or Serge Sargsyan and the Republican party to be more correct, are determined to oppress any expression of revolutionism with the most cruel means. The article from Panarmenian below doesn’t talk about the brutality, with which special police forces beat protesters. Let me remind once again, that the organizers of the march had a permission from Yerevan Municipality to organize it. It was clear from the start, that the opposition are determined to pick up a fight, it was also obvious, that government had carefully planned this display of power - from what I read and hear - it was the police forces who provoked the fight in the first place. However, if Serge Sargsyan had planned to scare people, it doesn’t seem to have worked - people have just gotten more frustrated and determined to fight again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to repeat myself &#8211; here&#8217;s an extract from my post at <a href="http://www.blogrel.com/2007/05/10/opposition-rally-dispersed-in-yerevan-may-9-2/" rel="nofollow">Blogrel</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I guess everybody knew there will be a fight after yesterday’s rally. It was going to serve as the last test to see just how serious both the government and opposition are about the revolutionary way of changing the government after the elections. We can see now, that the government, or Serge Sargsyan and the Republican party to be more correct, are determined to oppress any expression of revolutionism with the most cruel means. The article from Panarmenian below doesn’t talk about the brutality, with which special police forces beat protesters. Let me remind once again, that the organizers of the march had a permission from Yerevan Municipality to organize it. It was clear from the start, that the opposition are determined to pick up a fight, it was also obvious, that government had carefully planned this display of power &#8211; from what I read and hear &#8211; it was the police forces who provoked the fight in the first place. However, if Serge Sargsyan had planned to scare people, it doesn’t seem to have worked &#8211; people have just gotten more frustrated and determined to fight again.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Tigran Kocharyan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tigran Kocharyan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Onnik
Unfortunately it was really less people than last time(even,some of the Impeachment people accepted it). There were several reasons(rain,concert on Republic Square).On the Liberty Square was at lwast 15000 people,no need to be so controversial..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Onnik<br />
Unfortunately it was really less people than last time(even,some of the Impeachment people accepted it). There were several reasons(rain,concert on Republic Square).On the Liberty Square was at lwast 15000 people,no need to be so controversial..</p>
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		<title>By: kronstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kronstadt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sksela :(   
...it looks like the police and KGB have been developing their own version of Sksela]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sksela :(<br />
&#8230;it looks like the police and KGB have been developing their own version of Sksela</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onnik Krikorian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know Russian but from sticking that comment above through Babelfish, it seems to suggest that far less people turned up at yesterday&#039;s rally. If that&#039;s the case, as someone who usually criticizes media outlets for for inflating the number of those attending, I can tell you quite categorically that the number was probably about the same. Some of us were estimating the crowd at about 7-8,000 which was probably around about the same when they assembled last in Liberty Square.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know Russian but from sticking that comment above through Babelfish, it seems to suggest that far less people turned up at yesterday&#8217;s rally. If that&#8217;s the case, as someone who usually criticizes media outlets for for inflating the number of those attending, I can tell you quite categorically that the number was probably about the same. Some of us were estimating the crowd at about 7-8,000 which was probably around about the same when they assembled last in Liberty Square.</p>
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