Emigration, Immigration, Deportation

More than 730 thousand passengers have departed from Armenia’s “Zvartnots” and “Shirak” airports in the first 10 month of this year, while only 668 thousand have arrived, “Haykakan Zhamanak” (Armenian times) newspaper reports, concluding, that the difference of 62 thousand stands for the number of people who have emigrated from Armenia.

Just for the sake of fairness I gotta say, that a lot of guest-workers travel to Russia in Spring and only return home close to the New Year and Christmas holidays. In fact, the figure 62 thousand sounds about right for the number of guest-workers traveling to Russia and other CIS countries, so everything is not that bad and the paper’s conclusions are false.

On another note, Armenian Foreign Ministry says 4635 Armenian citizens have been deported from various countries in 2007-2010. 69 of them have been extradited on criminal charges. Germany has been the most Armenian-unfriendly, having sent home 1127 people. Russia sent back home 1042 Armenians, France comes third, having deported 832. Poland, Austria and Ukraine are next. Surprisingly, the USA, which has one of the largest populations of Armenians around the world, has only sent back 194 Armenian citizens in the course of 4 years, thus occupying the 7th slot in the list of countries, which help Armenia keep at least some of its population as the struggles with low birth rates and ongoing emigration.

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10 thoughts on “Emigration, Immigration, Deportation

  1. Basing immigration figures solely on arrival and departure numbers in Zvartnots or Shirak in 10 months is bogus. These numbers should be adjusted for people who leave by land and for the migrant workers as you mentioned ( if a migrant worker lives in Russia for 9-10 months of the year, is he a resident of Armenia or Russia?).

    • Good point, Nazarian! They’re more like Russian residents to me.

      I was more interested by deportation figures of Armenians from the U.S. It seems surprisingly low, don’t you think?

      • Deportations are usually done to illegal immigrants. If there is a serious crime by a non-citizen, they may be deported even if he or she is a legal immigrant.

        Armenians in the US are usually legal immigrants. So when they commit crimes, they serve their time in US prisons (keeps the business in the country, so to speak, because prisons are run by for-profit corporations here). Only the serious cases get deported hence the low numbers from the US.

          • everything in crap-merica is for profit corporations…EVERYTHING!!!!
            america = for profit/for sale, no democracy what so ever

            all the prisons (local/state/fed) are owned by private corps on wall st., which are contracted from local/state/fed officials who are in bed with wall st. in turn these prisons pay hefty taxes to all levels of gov’t and thats how goes the circle of money in america. even law enforcment in america is a for profit buisness. the more crimes we all committ, the more money cops make. how else you think cops are paid? you pay up to the courts in fines/fees and levies and that money is circulated to cops, judges, probations, city officials, etc etc…see they know everyone has money to get out of trouble, they know you will pay your last dime to them to get out of trouble with them. since they know this, they will bust you just for standing on the sidewalk taking up space and breathing air, they will find anything they can to bust you just so that you can go to court and pay. all lawyers on every level are in bed with this corrupt system. they are the ones who control it, hence why they always tell you: you need to hire a lawyer, they dont want you to know that you can handle it yourself

          • The idea is that the private enterprise is able to run things more efficiently. In a free market, an idea that is espoused in the US, enterprises will run things more efficiently than the government.

            Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a free market in real life. The private corporations do run the prisons cheaper than what the governments would do but in addition to the efficiencies gained from eliminating unnecessary bureaucracy, their profit margins are padded by limiting workforce or discretionary spending. So it’s not unusual to see prison riots with prisoners complaining about their living conditions. Streamlined work force, or fewer guards, means that these riots are easier to incite.

            Of course, whether it’s government run or privately run, these places are violent hell holes controlled by ethnic gangs.

  2. the usa takes forever on deportation proceedings
    hence why everyone wants to come to america
    not only for the better life ,but they know they have higher chance of enjoying it here longer than most other countries would allow them to
    also, real Armenians will always consider their Hayastan as home
    we maybe physically living outside of our Hayastan
    but mentally we will always be there, Hayastan is home for all genuine Armenians. I can attest to this 1st hand

  3. According to UNDP, “The prevalent estimate is that about 700,000-1,300,000 people have emigrated from Armenia since the first intensive wave of emigration from Armenia that started back in 1991.” http://www.undp.am/?page=LatestNews&id=592

    UN Report Warns Of ‘New Wave’ of Emigration from Armenia
    By Times.am at 21 May, 2010, 12:18 am

    Armenia is being warned that it faces “a new wave of emigration” unless the government does more to improve the socioeconomic situation and strengthen the rule of law.
    […]
    The report says tens of thousands of Armenian men working abroad might eventually reunite with their families and cause Armenia to “lose another 200,000-300,000 citizens.”

    It says another factor that could drive emigration is the ongoing concentration of agricultural land in the hands of wealthy individuals.

    The report acknowledges an economic benefit of emigration in the form of cash remittances sent home by hundreds of thousands of Armenian migrant workers mainly based in Russia, Europe and the United States.

    According to the Armenian Central Bank, those transfers totaled $1.12 billion last year — equivalent to nearly 13 percent of the country’s gross domestic product.

    But it also says emigration has had a number of detrimental effects, including decreased birth and marriage rates and a brain drain.
    […]
    http://times.am/2010/05/21/un-report-warns-of-‘new-wave’-of-emigration-from-armenia/

    • Ibelin, the Times.am article is a rip-off from the original RFE/RL article, which was quoted by Asbarez.

      I didn’t link to it or quote it, because I feel I’m linking to RFE/RL too much, but I hate to see it’s content used, reused, sometimes modified by unjournalistic projects like the Times.am without even mentioning or linking to the real source :(

      Sorry I reacted like this, but I feel the RFE/RL’s stuff is copy-pasted without due credit too many times.

  4. Observer,

    Yes, I had seen the report on rferl.org and other sites. I was not sure who copied from whom. I was going to post the UNDP report but that is a very long PDF file.

    As an activist, I will write to times.am and let them know that they should give credit to the source of articles they copy. If many people took action, they may change their ways.

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